Morning Free Association: January 26

You’ve probably heard by now that top-line LW Brad Marchand is due to have a hearing today regarding his trip on Niklas Kronwall. If you haven’t, here’s the word from the Department of Player Safety (DoPS):

For those of you who missed it the first time or just didn’t remember it at all, here’s the clip:

On NHL Live, NBCSNs pregame show for NHL Rivalry night, Bob McKenzie said that it wasn’t being considered a slew-foot because Brad didn’t pull on Kronwall from behind while taking out his leg. It is being considered tripping.

So, Brad’s going to get suspended or fined. If it’s a suspension, how long? If it’s a fine, how much?

McKenzie suggested it would be one game and that it would not interfere with his ability to play in the All Star Game.

Yeah Right

Let’s break this down a bit. We’ll disregard the ASG stuff because all players selected have to play unless they are injured, or ugly like Evgeni Malkin, sending their first born in their stead.

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(Boo! I’m mean! But seriously, he’s ugly. And I don’t like him.)

Brad has been fined and suspended numerous times during his career, the most recent suspension coming last December right before the Winter Classic at Gillette.

DateInfractionAgainstSuspensionFine
3/17/11Elbowing RJ Umberger 2 games
12/5/11Slew-footing Matt Niskanen$2500
1/7/12Clipping Sami Salo5 games
1/15/15 Slew-footing Derick Brassard2 games
11/12/15Roughing Gabriel Landeskog$5000
12/29/15Clipping Mark Borowiecki3 games

Even though the infraction is not considered a slew-foot, Marchand has been fined and suspended for doing that in the past as well as for clipping, but not for tripping. Essentially if it is a one-game suspension, it will be due to his history of these unprovoked infractions. There is recent precedent suggesting that it could be a fine and that maximum allowed under the CBA is $2217.74. But this is Brad Marchand, a player who has a reputation for being a pest and already has multiple multiple-game suspensions.

Let’s hash it out:

Should he be suspended? How many games? Or should he just be fined?

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The London Bear
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Just a fine for Marsh& (10,000 dollar), No ban.

IntentionallyWidenberg
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This makes me happy. The Bruins have suffered from a stream of players getting injured or suspended when they go on a run of playing well. Marchand has been one of the few players who were likely to produce points during this bad stretch.

$10k seems big enough to get his attention, but I doubt it really changes his style of play. Especially where this one was a reactionary foul to an equally bad provocation which was not punished in turn.

carvinbass18
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was just getting ready to copy / paste the tweet haha. Beat me to it

The London Bear
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Some folks are having issues seeing pictures and tweets, so just thought I’d summarise. Can’t find dollar sign on this keyboard also, ha!

carvinbass18
Editor

convert it to pounds haha

MadScientist72
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MadScientist72

For that you’d need to know the weight of a dollar & whether it’s in bills or coins. silly

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

Good Morning!!!
Ouch! I’m calling that clipping. It was dirty. Kronwall will be looking to repay him for that one day.
I’m hoping the Bs can build some momentum off the Win over the Wings.
It’s warm today, but yuck.
NEED TO MOTIVATE!!!! soon.

The BOB
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The BOB

Kronwall actually initiated it if you check the GIF posted in a tweet below. He slew-foot Marchand near the benches earlier in the shift.

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

Wow! Didn’t see that. No love lost there, eh?

Satan 81's Sister
Editor

Brad has been fined and suspended numerous times during his career, the most recent suspension coming last December right before the Winter Classic at Gillette.

*twitch*

phonymahoney
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carvinbass18
Editor

Winter classic at Gillette, I don’t remember it being a classic… I remember it being a horrible monstrosity

Thetallest81
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Thetallest81

Wait, that wasnt “Winter Vlasic”?…cause pretty sure it was just a game of pickle.

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The Once and Future Bagel Bruin
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That’s good.

Dr. Medievalist
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Dr. Medievalist

Good morning, friends. Subbing in for another professor today. Wooooo!

Let’s hope the team that showed up in the third period on Tuesday shows up tonight.

The BOB
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The BOB

There is a definite distinction between slewfoot and tripping and this was very clearly the latter, which in my uneducated opinion is a far less dangerous play.

That said, it was an incredibly stupid and unnecessary play and he deserves to be suspended for the sheer stupidity alone.

Thetallest81
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Thetallest81

I cant believe im going to say this but i agree with Bob.

The BOB
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The BOB

And so it begins…

Thetallest81
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Thetallest81
The Once and Future Bagel Bruin
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I busted my ass studying for my first Biology 111 test. Even when I was taking 300 level poli sci and journalism classes, I didn’t study this hard. (That’s probably why I dropped out too.)

Anyway, I got a 94 and I am damn proud of it.

Super funking tired today. I might coast through this work day.

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-witness-the-funk.png

Thetallest81
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Thetallest81

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The Once and Future Bagel Bruin
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THE FUNK!

Thetallest81
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Thetallest81

easy now fuzzy little love peach, ever drunk bailey’s from a shoe?

Dr. Medievalist
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Dr. Medievalist

Wooo!

carvinbass18
Editor

Way to go!!

phonymahoney
Editor

Good morning, pals!

On NHL Live, NBCSNs pregame show for NHL Rivalry night, Bob McKenzie said that it wasn’t being considered a slew-foot because Brad didn’t pull on Kronwall from behind while taking out his leg. It is being considered tripping.

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  • So, tripping warrants a suspension now? It’s a dirty play for sure, but I wasn’t aware tripping could land you a call with DoPS. I don’t feel bad, though, because Kronwall regularly kills people out there.
  • The Detroit game has given me false hope. I’m actually semi-excited for tonight.
  • I may miss the start, though, because I’m planning to hit the rink on my way home.
  • Work lunch today with a supplier. Peruvian! Are we having guinea pigs?
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  • Went to the new office yesterday to argue about the floorplan and seating arrangements. Got one thing I wanted, got stuck with another thing that really irks me… so in the end, I don’t know how I feel about it. Kinda pissed, kinda OK.
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  • I can’t believe we actually were injury free for a game. Totally nuts! Can we eat our veggies and keep that up?
  • Roommates got in a fight last night and HOLY AWKWARD. I’m pretty sure one of them was forced to sleep on the couch.
  • Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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    Long-Winded Striped Mofo

    Ceviche! Y quiero Papas a la Huancaina, tambien!!! Que sabroso!!!!

    Satan 81's Sister
    Editor

    I love ceviche.

    carvinbass18
    Editor

    Went to the new office yesterday to argue about the floorplan and seating arrangements. Got one thing I wanted, got stuck with another thing that really irks me… so in the end, I don’t know how I feel about it. Kinda pissed, kinda OK.

    Did you get your glass window?

    Satan 81's Sister
    Editor

    It’s a comfy couch!

    Thetallest81
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    Thetallest81

    NO BODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!

    The Once and Future Bagel Bruin
    Member

    Missing the game to skate is always worth it.

    carvinbass18
    Editor

    I think Marchand should get a game or 2. It was dangerous, despite his reputation.

    However, if you’re the DoPS, this needs to be looked at too.

    @phoneymahoney I know right, his knees are busted from doing this type of thing 30 seconds prior…https://t.co/dO3cDR6bOv

    — Bobby16may (@Bobby16may) January 26, 2017

    but it’s not so #carlshrug.

    IntentionallyWidenberg
    Admin

    If it weren’t Marchand, I doubt it gets looked at, since it was penalized in game.
    He probably does deserve supplemental discipline for it – it was away from the play.

    However, Kronwall’s was a classic slewfoot, and Kronwall is (also) a douchenozzle who pulls sketchy stuff like that all the time – yet he usually gets away with it. (he did get suspended during the playoffs a couple of years ago).

    I’d say the league has a double-standard, but that’s selling them short. They’ve got triple, quadruple, many-faceted standards.

    The BOB
    Member
    The BOB

    It was NOT penalized in game. The only penalties on Boston were on Chara and Krug.

    IntentionallyWidenberg
    Admin

    I misremembered – thanks.

    The BOB
    Member
    The BOB

    Still doesn’t make sense to investigate one play while ignoring the second… especially when the one triggered the other. No surprise that they ignore the instigator and go after the response though…

    Thetallest81
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    Thetallest81

    I CANT SEE TWITTER!!!!

    carvinbass18
    Editor

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    it’s Kronwall pulling the same rat move on Marchand, probably earlier in the game.

    The BOB
    Member
    The BOB

    Not THAT is a slewfoot! Or it certainly looked like one in the brief instant the play is shown.

    carvinbass18
    Editor

    It’s not a good look. They both should get something that’s for sure.

    The London Bear
    Member

    Don’t see how they can even investigate the one and not the other.

    The BOB
    Member
    The BOB

    That’s because you understand logic and reason, things that professional sports leagues have no comprehension of…

    carvinbass18
    Editor

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    The London Bear
    Member

    Could understand it if the refs on the ice had missed one or the other, but Whoever at Toronto must have seen both incidents.

    It does make you wonder what goes into this decision-making process.

    Not trying to defend Marchand actions – what he did was stupid and does deserve to be punished – but some consistency would be nice!

    *takes off Jack Edwards hat*

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