Morning Free Association: The Conversation We Should Continue to Have

One series is done and the other three aren’t in a hurry to wrap up. Last night, The Capitals decided that they might want to stay in the playoffs by taking game six to tie the series.

At one point in the game, Sidney Crosby goes down hard into the boards. He seems a little woozy getting up but didn’t go through the concussion protocol despite having just returned from a concussion sustained a week ago. It should also be noted that not only does Crosby have a concussion history up to this season, he started the season out with a concussion obtained during the World Cup.

While no one on the Pittsburgh staff may have felt he needed an evaluation, his crashing into the boards head first increases the likelihood that he could be concussed yet again. Chris Nowinski, head of the Concussion Legacy Foundation, weighed in on his collision into the boards.

Given that it’s the playoffs, one can understand that hockey players will play, no matter the injury, no matter the personal cost. But is it right and should they continue to risk their future health for the a cup win?

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phonymahoney
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re: Crosby –

Yes, he went down hard and should have been pulled off the ice. Dazed, though? That seems like a bit much.

The Once and Future Bagel Bruin
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40% off online shopping at Banana Republic today and today only.

The London Bear
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Hello folks,

My live hockey watching is now confined to the Worlds.
A very entertaining match last night between Finland and Czech Rep. The Czechs came back from 3-0 down in the third period (two lovely assists by Pasta) to win in a shootout.

Mrs Bear spent her school years in the Czech Rep, so she is cheering them on.

Slovakia have been as bad as I feared but should just avoid relegation. Actually, if they do get relegated they would play Great Britain in next year’s Division 1a, and that would be a lot of fun in our household!

Big darts night with some guys from work tonight. Very much looking forward to it!

The Once and Future Bagel Bruin
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I wonder why Slovakia doesn’t turn out the talent it’s neighbor the Czech Rep does. Could it just be the the Czech Rep pumps more money into the program?

The London Bear
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Could it just be the the Czech Rep pumps more money into the program?

That’s certainly a part of it but also hockey equipment is very expensive, as you know, and in Slovakia there’s not much money or jobs and a small population compared to Czech Rep.

A couple of years ago they won a medal at the world U18 despite there only being 50 eligible players in the country! So the talent is there, it’s just there’s a very small pool.

I got into hockey via the Slovak league, and in those days (6 years ago) there were almost no overseas players in the league (the odd Scandinavian or Russian). Now, there are quite a few North Americans in most teams. I don’t know what significance if any that is, but just something I noticed.

Satan 81's Sister
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Boo, back at work. Finished wading through all the emails. Now to attack the stack of paperwork.
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carvinbass18
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PEAKY BLINDERS!!!

The London Bear
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New season is being filmed!

Satan 81's Sister
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I need to catch up on that show. Watched the first season and some of the second and then got distracted and forgot about it. So many damn shows, so little time.

The London Bear
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So many damn shows, so little time

Ain’t that the truth!

I loved the first two seasons of PB – third not so much, but it was good enough that I’m looking forward to the fourth.

Just finished watching The Following, which I really enjoyed but the show was cancelled after season 3 with the story not really concluded. A bit frustrating…

carvinbass18
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I hated how they never actually addressed the end of season 2. Like HOW DID HE GET OUT OF THAT!?

The London Bear
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Spoiler
One of the guys round the shallow grave was a government(?) spy who saved Shelby in return for him working for them. That’s how I understood it anyway!

carvinbass18
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Spoiler
but did he end up working for the gov’t? I don’t remember that actually happening

The London Bear
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Spoiler
It’s a while since I watched it. Didn’t he have some meetings with Churchill? And there was that business with the cache of stolen guns. Was that in season 3? I’m remembering various bits but not very coherently! Gah! Gonna have to have a look on Wiki

The London Bear
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Checked it on Wiki. I am none the wiser!

carvinbass18
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Posted this on twitter, but fun little update. Zboril’s Saint John Sea Dogs are 12-2 in the playoffs. Currently leading their leagues final 2-0

The Once and Future Bagel Bruin
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Holy shit, Crosby.

carvinbass18
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Crosby should have been taken into concussion protocol. full stop. He went head first into the boards & was slow to get up. I don’t care if he just got the wind knocked out of him. I don’t care if it’s Crosby, with his concussion history, Tom Wilson, noted shit head or anyone else. Just do the job you’re supposed to do as team spotter or doctors. It’s 10 minutes in a dark room. Just do it. If he’s cleared after, then fine.

Thetallest81
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Thetallest81

Sports has shown over multiple occurrences that the drive and competitiveness that makes these special players super stars removes any logic from “should i be playing”. It is up to the player to always have the fight and will to go out there and sacrifice for the better of the team. It is up to the coach to know what is better for his team and players by determining what is better for the team to win. It is up to the GM on what is better for the team in the long term going forward. It is up to the NHLPA to make sure that the players best interests are kept in check.

The coach has to weigh if the injury or overuse of a player impacts the player to a degree where someone else can replace the player and is more dependable to perform at crucial moments.

The GM should be determining if a player’s injury is serious enough where playing the person becomes a detriment to the productivity of the player for the remainder of the contract.

The doctor staff should be detached from any office politics and do what they are required to maintain the safety standards put in place by the players association and the league. If the current team staff cannot stay objective they should be appointed by the players association and the league instead of the team.

No player should be able to sue the league at this point for loss of comfort of life post-career due to concussions if they choose to go on and play on their own will like Crosby just did. You know what concussions are at this point and you have known examples of players that will never be right ever again because of them. If you do something stupid like sacrifice your health to win a cup then that is on you. Don’t go into the next lockout year representing the players saying more needs to be done for the players when you show you cant make the proper decisions for yourself to protect your own interests, dont be a selfish fuck.

/end rant.

The London Bear
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Completely agree. Stupid to take any chances where concussion is involved.

Satan 81's Sister
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Agree as well. I was wary when they announced he would return to the series. I know concussions can be different, but with his history I was shocked he came back so soon. And then to get rattled during the game and not go through protocol seems rather reckless.

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

Hey Pals!
Concussions, yuck.
Caps need to get their fans feeling hopeful before they pull that rug from under them.
Double tonight and Rags – Tootsies will be on all the tellies at the rink. I’ll have to get one turned so it faces the ice. It always seems funny when players are more interested in the team they follow than the team they play on.
Coffee!!!!

Thetallest81
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Thetallest81

DOWN WITH THE TOOTSIES!

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