Morning Free Association: Spooner or Later

Ryan Spooner is still unsigned for the 2017-18 season. As it stands, if he remains without a contract by Wednesday, he is scheduled to undergo arbitration.

As one might see above, both Brian Dumoulin and Austin Watson were scheduled for today but arrived at deals before the hearing with their respective teams, Pittsburgh and Nashville. Dumoulin received $4.1 million/ 6 years and Watson a 3 year deal at $1.1 million AAV.

From what was reported by Insider Elliotte Friedman, the team and Spooner are pretty far apart on salary, with Spooner’s camp asking for almost twice as much as the Bruins are offering.

There is some hope as arbitrators can determine a lower salary.

As much as I want to believe that Spooner would get closer to $2 million, if the salary soars, there are ways for the Bruins to make him a UFA either right away or within a year.
From CapFriendly, the rules for arbitration under the current CBA:

Arbitration Ruling:

  • Player & Club can settle on a deal at any point prior to the official ruling
  • Once the hearing has taken place, the Salary Arbitration decision must be issued by email within 48 hrs of the closing [CBA 12.9(n)(i)]
  • Arbitration awards can only be 1 or 2 years in length [CBA 12.10(a)&(b)]
  • The party (Player or Club) who did not elect for Arbitration decides on the awarded term [CBA 12.10(a)&(b)]
  • Players who are in their final year Restricted Free Agency are only entitled to a 1 year term.
  • Club cannot walk away from a Club elected Arbitration Settlement [CBA 12.10(e)]
  • Player elected Arbitration Settlements of 1 year & > $4,084,219, Club can walk away from the awarded salary, making the player a UFA [CBA 12.10(a)]
  • Player elected Arbitration Settlements of 2 years & > $4,084,219, Club can walk away from the second (2nd) year of the awarded salary, making the player a UFA at the end of year 1 [CBA 12.10(b)]
  • That’s right, Spooner could be cut loose if he becomes too expensive. You don’t want to see it but with Pastrnak still unsigned and other positions of need remaining, is it worth keeping Spooner around given what we know he is?

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    Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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    Long-Winded Striped Mofo

    I’d love seeing Jagr back in Boston! Iggy, not so much. He was fine while he was here, just seems the wear and tear is showing.

    Satan81
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    So, in the cases of Jagr, Iginla, and Doan, do you think they’ll get a PTO in training camp, or do you think it’s finally the end of the road?

    MadScientist72
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    The rumor mill seems to indicate that Jagr wants to play again and that Iggy & Doan are willing to play, if they can find the right situation (contender team, good place for their kids, etc.). I suspect that teams will give them offers (either PTOs or short contracts) once they’ve gotten all their RFA situations ironed out. It’ll just be a question of who offers what to whom. We’ll see at least one of them playing next season.

    Satan81
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    Iggy had 8 goals and 10 assists in 61 games. If he’s willing to accept a 4th line role for a year, maybe he’s back. I kinda think he’s done, though. Doan’s in a similar situation.

    Jagr had better numbers than Ryan Spooner. I’m amazed nobody’s made him an offer.

    Thetallest81
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    Thetallest81

    Yeah the Jagr one seems really odd, makes me think theres some kind of stigma that exists that im not aware of.

    Satan 81's Sister
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    The only stigma he should have is the stigma of being fucking awesome!

    MadScientist72
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    MadScientist72

    I think it’s just a case of teams being too busy right now negotiating with their RFAs.

    Satan 81's Sister
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    Pasta looks like he’s been eating pasta.

    Lookin' good, fellas! #BruinsGlobal pic.twitter.com/bfoqBMM4hi

    — Boston Bruins (@NHLBruins) July 25, 2017

    Satan81
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    Wait, what’s Hal Gill doing in that picture?

    Satan81
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    Pasta with beef!

    Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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    Long-Winded Striped Mofo

    Wow! I’m considering lighting the wood stove today!

    carvinbass18
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    Yeah this is straight up bull shit lol

    Satan 81's Sister
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    Kind of regretting wearing short sleeves today.

    Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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    Long-Winded Striped Mofo

    Hey Pals!
    Spoons at 2 – 2.5 I can handle. More? Bye, bye.
    Back from Miami. Yay! It’s a lot of inactivity for me. We really just go to see the baby. A very cute baby and great food, but…. I did get a lot of reading done. El murmullo de las abejas by Sophia Segovia. Excellent read, probably available in English somewhere.
    Bossman is slow paying again so I am on strike today. Yay!!!! Need to nip this shit in the bud.
    Double tonight! Yay! Exercise!!!
    Moar covifefe!!!!

    MadScientist72
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    Bossman is slow paying again so I am on strike today. Yay!!!! Need to nip this shit in the bud.

    That’s a violation of the Fair Labor Standards Act. If you take him to court, you could get your pay and then some. And the FSLA views late payment as the same as non-payment when it comes to determining penalties.

    Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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    Long-Winded Striped Mofo

    I live on Mars.

    Satan81
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    Bruins just announced 2017-2018 game plans now on sale. Alternately, I’m a season ticket holder and you can buy tickets from me and they will cost less. wink

    carvinbass18
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    good morning

    Let’s do some quick numbers on Mr. Spooner:
    In his first year at the NHL level he played 4 games, 0 points
    2nd year: 23 games, 11 points (all assists) for a ppg of 0.48, full season of that ppg = 39 points
    3rd year: 29 games, 18 points (8g 10a). ppg of 0.62, full season of that ppg = 50 points
    4th year: 80 games, 49 points (13g 36a)
    5th year: 79 games 39 points (11g 28a)

    I mean those are consistent numbers, within 10 points. so split the difference with Spooner and put him at 45 points, last years comparables are Brock Nelson, Tyler Johnson Jordan Staal, Travis Zajac, Victor Rask (and others, but this is just a random grab of these players)

    Nelson 2.5mil
    Johnson: 5mil
    Staal: 6mil
    Zajac: 5.75mil
    Rask: 4mil

    I started this comment thinking “oh Spooner will no way get that kind of money based on point totals, but now I’m scared, and by God if he gets 3 mil it will be a friendly deal (based on this small sample size)

    Thetallest81
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    Thetallest81

    Thing to take into account though is most of Spooner’s ability is on the PP, he is by all means not a well rounded player and not someone who “effective when not producing”. So while his totals may be consistently in the same ballpark you also have to take other things into mind like defensive responsibility and possession. Neither id say he does rather well in any regards.

    Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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    Long-Winded Striped Mofo

    I would put Spooner on a par with Nelson. Johnson, Staal and Zajac are all underperforming.Staal’s contract is brutal right now. Who signed him? Chia?

    The London Bear
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    Mornin’

    I’m thinking he didn’t get anywhere near as much PP time last year as year before, so that explains a bit of his dropoff (haven’t checked the stats on that so may be wrong). Plus the psychological effect of knowing you’re playing for a team that doesn’t really want you.

    Maybe if he gets 3mil or 3.25 some other team will think he’s a steal at that and trade for him. He’s not that bad of a player, there’s just no real place for him in the Bs system. #bloptimism

    Thetallest81
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    Thetallest81

    #signpasta

    carvinbass18
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    I’m scared to join on this campaign, because the last time we did that it got Dougie traded

    MadScientist72
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    MadScientist72

    But by all accounts, Pasta wants to stay in Boston & Dougie most definitely did not.

    Satan81
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    Hmm…I’m glad Dougie’s gone but I don’t want Pasta to go away.

    Satan 81's Sister
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    Morning all.
    Fuck Spooner.
    Sign Pasta.

    wpDiscuz