Morning Free Association: Trade Talk

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Over the weekend, rumors abounded that the Bruins are in on the Rick Nash trade talks. Last week, Ryan McDonagh was all the rage in these talks. The New York Rangers are in rebuild mode and ware willing to deal away key assets like their top pairing left defenseman and captain and, oh, an expensive rental like Nash.

Apparently, the Bruins are still in the discussion for McDonagh. In the offseason, Bruins GM wanted to add to his defensive corps on the left side, if only even for depth. Now, it could very much be a reality.

McDonagh is signed through the 2018-2019 at $4.7 million, which isn’t a terrible cap hit. But any move the B’s make requires sending major money back the other way, say a contract like Matt Beleskey’s one time reasonable deal which is now buried. On Pro Hockey Talk, the case is being made for McDonagh to go to either Boston or Tampa Bay, where the author believes that he’ll flourish despite the usual post-trade woes that players face:

In a lot of cases, a big name struggles after a move. There are plenty of potential explanations for that, from off-ice (dealing with distractions like finding a place to live) to on the ice (chemistry with linemates, a different coach, a less fancy team jet if you’re Mike Modano).

Allow me to wager that McDonagh might actually flourish on a strong team like the Bruins or Lightning, or really any contender that could use someone like him (which, honestly, is just about any contender, especially if they move players along with futures in a trade).

He also states that McDonagh has been plagued by the play of his partner in the past, Dan Girardi, who “the Rangers bought out Girardi, essentially paying him not to play for their team any longer.” (Their words not mine, but I would say them.) But, the problem is that Dan Girardi is also in Tampa Bay, who the Lightning are ostensibly paying to play. So, if they get him, maybe those two should like not be a pair.

Greg Wyshynski, now of ESPN, suggested in his and Emily Kaplan’s ESPN podcast, ESPN on Ice (which is a good league-wide listen) that he would love to see Ryan join up with his fellow Minnesotans on, you guessed it, the Wild just because it would be fun.

If the Bruins are in on him, I have no doubt that he would play well. However, that means someone is left sitting out, probably Matt Grzelcyk, who has stepped up his game and played so well it would be an injustice to make hims sit or send him down, if that can even happen. This team has such a delicate balance that I would hate to disrupt.

As for Rick Nash, let’s take a hard pass on him. He’s an expensive rental who disappears in the post-season. While his versatility at wing is great, why take him at his pro-rated $2,264,516 (minus the daily $41,935) toward your cap when you can grab another winger who plays both sides, Michael Grabner. He’s cheaper and has 23 goals on the season.

Personally, I’m good with a quiet trade deadline because I’ve grown to love the cubs and their elder bears and the salary cap stuff sometimes just hurts my head. But, change is likely to come and we best be prepared for it.

Who would you like to see on this team come deadline time? Anyone new or stay the same?

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https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-trade-deadline-assets-come-into-focus/c-295884898?tid=278542340 also talks about Patrick Maroon (EDM) & Thomas Vanek (VAN) as potential deadline pickups for the Bs. I’d rather see them ride it out with the team they’ve got. They didn’t mention him as a Boston trade target, but Patches is potentially on the block in MTL. I don’t think Boston will – or should – go after him (I suspect it would be a terrible long-term idea & would really hate to see what we’d have to send back their way to get him), but part of would laugh so hard (diabolically, of course) if he told them he wanted to be traded to Boston.

Anyone else got opinions?

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Maroon & Vanek?
It’s like they went out of their way to find players I don’t like. Clearly they don’t like the Bruins LW side.

I don’t see why they pegged Vanek towards the Bruins, when highlighting scoring as his strength – this seems like something the Bruins do not lack. I wouldn’t mind him in the depth chart as a rental, but wouldn’t want to pay anything for him, since he has a recent history of disappointing every team he’s gone to. I view him like I’d view a nickel on the ground. I pick it up if it’s in front of me, but not if it has gunk on it or if I need to hop a fence.

Maroon might be a useful rental. The kids are good on that side, but it might be nice to have another vet in the group come playoffs time. I don’t care about his physicality – that is not likely a huge factor in the playoffs, and hasn’t been a big factor in the season. Besides, we have McQuaid, Miller, Backes to bring that.

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In my dream last night my bedroom window was a portal to hell. El Diablo was trying to come through but I wouldn’t let him because he said he wasn’t going to do any diabolical laughter.
DIABOLICAL LAUGHTER IS PART OF THE JOB THERE DIABLO! IF YOU’RE NOT GOING TO DO YOUR JOB I’M NOT LETTING YOU THROUGH THE PORTAL!

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phonymahoney
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You have some weird (awesome) fucking dreams!

Satan 81's Sister
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I really do. My favorite part was me just casually having conversations with the devil.

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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My favorite part was me just casually having conversations with the devil.

Me looking in the mirror every morning!

phonymahoney
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phonymahoney

HA!

Satan 81's Sister
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Morning all. Looks like I missed all the problems at the office yesterday. Yay me!

The London Bear
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Such a good feeling! (Unless those problems have a knock-on to today…)

Satan 81's Sister
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Nope, looks like they got them sorted yesterday!

Satan 81's Sister
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Hell, I should just take the whole week off!

phonymahoney
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phonymahoney

Hey hockey pals!

  • I’m a BU fan first and foremost, but let’s not forget to talk about hockey Boston hockey news – Northeastern won their first Beanpot in 30 years, AND all four schools have won the Beanpot in consecutive years. It was really nice to watch them go bananas when they did it.
  • Gotta give the Huskies one every thirty years or so. #NU #BU #Beanpot ‍♀️

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  • Hoping Bobo Carpenter wins next year’s Beanpot. Last chance.
  • I’m all for staying out of the trade deadline mess. No McDonagh, definitely no Rick Nash. Thanks.
  • Went to the Polish store this morming because it’s Fat Tuesday. Happy Paczki Day!
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    Satan 81's Sister
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    YES!

    phonymahoney
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    phonymahoney

    Ha!

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    I am honestly ok either way in this trade, i have LOVED McDonagh for a few years now and think he is a very underrated defenceman. He may not be the same player he was a few years ago, but i think he would be a solid addition. As Chara starts to show his age towards the end of the season it would be great to have a deeper roster with more experience.

    That said, I do not think our D core is in as bad of a shape as it was last year. The new system has made the team a lot better in transition and while they have had a lot of issues getting exposed on the backside a lot of it is just bad management and brain farts and shooting pucks into peoples skates when they are the last man back…..its not really a skill thing but a mental thing.

    Real question is…what is the return and what will it cost the team? If it hurts the efforts to keep the team relevant in years to come then screw it.

    MadScientist72
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    a lot of issues getting exposed on the backside a lot of it is just bad management and brain farts and shooting pucks into peoples skates

    You just used backside and farts in the same sentence!
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    Spoiler
    Yeah, I know. I have the sense of humor of a 6-year-old sometimes.

    The London Bear
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    Amazing to think Bs have the best goals against per game (or they did last time I checked it) even though they haven’t had all the D fit at the same time!

    If it ever happens, I wouldn’t be so sure Griz stays in over Quaider, although I know the BoT gang are expecting McQuaid to be on longterm nacho duty. Maybe they could have a rotating D corps?

    I wouldn’t mind getting McDonagh. I love the Cubs but there’s no telling how they’ll be in the playoffs. Might be worth having the experience or even just the extra depth in case the injuries mount up again on D (remember last year, ugh!) I wonder what the Rags are asking.

    Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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    Hey Pals!
    The Bruins already have a Nash… perhaps that confused the pundits.
    Please Sweenius no McDonagh, either. The farm is bearing fruit early, but don’t fuck with it. Please!!!!!
    Great day on the river yesterday. Much wow! So excite!!! Paddlers across the NE are trying to get out of work today, tomorrow, Thursday. Weeeeeeee!
    Watched enough of the beanpot final. Northeastern very good!
    US women playing Russia right now, I’m told.
    No river today….3 hockey games..
    Coffee!!!