Morning Free Association: The Dadonov Trade Saga

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In a fitting bookend to a deal that the Vegas Golden Knights thought they had at the trade deadline, Evgenii Dadonov has finally been traded from the VGK. Of course, it was to a different team this time and that’s why the deal happened. Better late than never I guess.

As you may recall, Evgenii Dadonov was originally traded to the Golden Knights in late July 2021 in exchange for a 2022 second round pick and defenseman Nick Holden. He had originally signed a three-year deal with Ottawa in 2020, a deal which included a limited no-trade clause (NTC) that disallowed trades to 10 teams of the players’ choice, a NTC which we will come back to. Vegas then decided to deal Dadonov for recently traded from Boston John Moore and the LTIRetired contract of Ryan Kesler; Vegas was severely above the cap limit after trading for Jack Eichel and hoped to balance some books that way. The deal was nullified by the league office after it found that the deal violated Dadonov’s limited NTC, a NTC that Vegas claimed was not forwarded to them at the trade of his 2021 trade. This was a confusing mess and pretty hilarious to be honest.

Well, Evgenii Dadonov has been officially traded by the Golden Knights to a team that wasn’t on his no-trade list: the Montreal Canadiens. The Golden Knights took back the contract of the all-but-retired Shea Weber.

Looking at Weber’s contract, it’s easy to see why he isn’t going to even come back from his injuries that he tried to play through (thumb, knee, and ankles) and that were reportedly so painful that required a lot of pain management therapy to even practice. He signed a 14-year contract in 2012 before that term length was outlawed by the league. Weber received $68 million of his $110 million in the first 6 seasons. Starting this year, he’s making $3 million or less per year. It’s just not worth playing through the pain for so little.

But, he can still be useful to the tune of $7,857,143 in cap relief for the Golden Knights as of October 10th, 2022.

As for the Ducks who missed out on the original trade, they checked in to see if was real.

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Strange morning for me. I fell asleep on the sofa last night. Woke up at quarter past 4 with the lights on and the TV showing the Roku screensaver. (The dog, however, had run upstairs to jump on the bed the moment I was distracted.) I drank some iced tea, went back to sleep and started having odd dreams.

In the one I remember best, my work friend, who vaguely resembled Jane Lynch, invited me to get a salad at lunch. But I needed to pee fairly urgently, so I ducked into the bathroom. The bathroom was empty, large enough for 4 or 5 stalls, but only had one toilet, in the far corner, with no stall. It occurred to me that this might be the ladies room, and I turned around and not-Jane was coming in to tell me I’d gone to the wrong room so I continued out and went into the neighboring bathroom.
There were about 15 people milling around in this one, with two running shower heads, and no toilets, urinals or stalls. One fixture, which vaguely resembled a urinal sitting at floor level behind a running shower on closer examination had multiple electrical ports in it, like an EKG machine. I figured this was some exotic form of handicapped gear installed by the military, and may or may not act as a urinal. There was an alcove, around which was a woman approaching another fixture that was not obviously restroom gear. I was tired of being confused and found an alternate exit.
I come out into an area around the corner from the main hallway of the office building, started looking for another restroom option, and thought to return to the one near my desk, only to run into not-Jane who was growing impatient. etc, etc.

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

Sounds like a super modern DesChamps work!

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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

Maybe an Ibsen play.

Satan 81's Sister
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Satan 81's Sister

Morning all. Ugh this week has been stressful. So ready for the weekend.

Been reading John Lurie’s memoir. I’m only a hundred pages in but I swear every story has ended with “turns out this person wanted to shoot me.” This should be a fun read!

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

Admit to not knowing a lot about John Lurie. A brief look says that could be a deep rabbit hole.

Satan 81's Sister
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I used to listen to a lot of his music and have seen a lot of the movies and such he’s been in. He’s one of those smaller names that’s associated with bigger names kind of deal. He’s done stuff with Tom Waits, Jim Jarmusch, etc.

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

Okay, i’ll tumble down that for awhile. One thing i love here is staying sorta current.

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Morning all,

Pretty windy today. Our dead but decorative plum tree fell down yesterday. Will have to chop that up and dispose of it somehow. Ughh.

He’s making $3 million or less per year. It’s just not worth playing through the pain for so little

Yeah, I don’t get out of bed for less than 5 mil.

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

Barry Trotz reportedly turned down 7 mil to coach the Flyers! Hey, i’ll do it for half that.

The London Bear
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The London Bear

Haha! Would be worth it to work with Gritty …

Was disappointed Trotz wasn’t on the Bruins’ target list. I’d love him as coach.

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

If the Bs are to have a last go at the prize, the inmates may need to run the asylum.

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Good morning,
I feel that this trade just circumvents the cap. The league should reject on that ground. It’s common practice to trade for an LTIRed player, but teams often use these trades to reach the cap floor, not get under its ceiling.Dadonov is a free agent after this season. Then he can go wherever he wants.
Wow! Today is Friday! Woohoo!

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I’m good with the trade. Yeah, it’s a little odd, but VGK are acquiring a contract, and need to pay money without getting a viable player in return. From the player angle, Weber is still getting all of the money he was promised, and I can’t imagine that Dadanov would be thrilled to stay where he was. It hits all of the league’s important points.

For a league that has disallowed the most common cap relief trick in pro sports (cutting a player to remove him from the cap), it’s one of the few techniques available to GMs who are seeing player salaries rise steadily while the cap is relatively stagnant.

I still hate the math that the league uses for LTIR relief. “we raise your cap limit by (up-to) the amount of dead LTIR money”. Subtraction is a thing. It’s not a new concept. Neither is the concept of tracking two things at the same time (cap money vs total player contract obligations). Other leagues allow a team to move LTIR out of the cap, regardless of whether they are still obligated to pay it. I suppose that there is some concern that teams would use LTIR to cut a player, but the current accounting technique doesn’t really prevent that either.

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

Better living through subtraction!….

Long-Winded Striped Mofo
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Long-Winded Striped Mofo

I think the Bs dumped Mark Savard’s contract to Florida? Maybe? The last year or two, anyway

Satan 81's Sister
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Satan 81's Sister

Wow! Today is Friday! Woohoo!

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